Thursday, January 7, 2010

What's the best oil to use in a Yamaha motorcycle?

A Yamaha 650cc V-Star.What's the best oil to use in a Yamaha motorcycle?
Sick-o-leen? Lucas? Yamalube?





Got to be friggin kidding me!





It's very important to read the labels today and whether you are under warranty. Read the manual - you may see it says something like ';API-SJ and JASO MA'; if you are under warranty and it states both then you better find one that says both - Mobil 1 4t racing oil exceeds both.





If warranty is not an issue I'd recommend Rotella that's not marked CJ-4 and marked CI-4





do not use API SL or SM, energy conserving, or anything with a starburst insignia on it





If you find API SL then only use it if it also meets the European ACEA A3/B3 standards as well or forget it





If you want motorcycle specific I recommend Mobil 1 4t, Motul, and Redline only! Use the viscosity that the manufacture recommends and avoid using 20-50 oil unless you ride in temps of 100 degrees or more consistently.





If you want something inexpensive then try the Rotella CI-4 or what's mostly the single most over-looked and Porsche approved engine oil on the market today - Kendall GT-1. Full synthetic Castrol is good too





If want something really exotic then order Brad Penn, Swepco, CMW, or Joe Gibbs racing oils





Rotella is actually a recommended break-in oil for air-cooled Porsche camshafts and rockers - that should speak volumes in regards to it's quality





In the future when an oil meets the ACEA A9 standards I'd grab some up. If money was no object then Motul or Redline





I base my findings on what engineers, race engine builders, and experts recommend - not opinions by users who are convinced a name brand is simply good based on no other support the.... ';I use it';





Sick-o-leen, Yamalube (who ever makes it for them), and Lucas don't qualify, don't compare, and all have a fall off that makes them inferior. Even AMSOIL has studies that show Yamalube to be one of the worst.... Sick-o-leen is notorious for having harmful additives, and Lucas? LMAO!





Also note this, if you use dino then don't change it frequently because it is now proven that frequently changing dino oil is more harmful then over-extending. It's because the detergent additives in dino are very corrosive and cause wear, use wears out these harmful detergents so it's better old then new..... some people will tell you that it doesn't matter what you use if you just change it frequently...WRONG!





I don't recommend AMSOIL for two personal reasons, aggressive marketing approach that attacks other brands and implying Spartan like change intervals of thousands of miles are good. Manufactures state when to change your oil on a general basis, this does not include times for hard use and extreme temps, which may require a change regardless of the mileage as a result, Shear effects by bearings and gears in your transmission effect the viscosity ability of all oils - and with motorcycles if you change within the periods or events as I have described above - you won't go wrong - motorcycles, air cooled motorcycles are hard on oil and AMSOIL is full of it in my book, you need to change it...





Try to use a premium oil filter with the highest level of filtering possible and a GM study shows that this will will extend engine life 75% on average - making the oil filter as important as the oil, if not more!What's the best oil to use in a Yamaha motorcycle?
As long as it does not say energy conserving on the API label you can use any, yes any car oil. There are quite a bit of descrepancies with the use of car oil vs. 'motorcycle oil' but I have been using nothing but car oil in my bikes for years and put many miles on them with absolutely no problems and I have many bikes of various brands and sizes. The motorcycle oil as the dealers like to call it is an expensive crock in my opinion and those using expensive oil and synthetics are jsut throwing their money away. 20,30,40 years ago there wasnt such a thing as 'motorcycle oil', synthetic etc. what did they do, they used car oil. Just keep it changed on a regular basis and you wont have any problems. Check out beacbums two websites.
Use the yamaha oil on the vstar for 3 reasons;


1) it costs about the same as non yamaha oil


2) it keeps the warranty safe


3) it is also used by the clutch, and if you use the wrong oil it will


cause slippage and other nasty problems.
The obvious choice would be Yama-lube found at any dealership.





Otherwise Lucas is a quality brand. Both are pretty costly but usually worth the peace of mind.





Most guys just use regular 10W40 and ignore the small risk of the clutch effects. I use it and don't have any issues.
Yamalube makes a great oil,but dont get into the oil hype,as long as it's broken in use fully synthetic oils without friction modifiers.


You can even go to you local walmart,autozone and pick up some rotella diesel oil works great.
If money is of no object I would recommend Silkolene. Although changing your oil when necessary, depending on how you ride is more important than having the best oil.
The best oil for your bike is the manufacturers recommended oil





Yamalube


It's what it was built to use.
Use a synthetic or synthetic blend.


Don't use car oil that's labeled, '; Energy Conserving'; in the API label.



this question will get many different answers, oil type all ways has many opinions. Read and follow what the manual has to say, that is your best bet.
Read this. Also go to drPiston.com and look around.
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  • Is motorcycle oil different than regular motor oil, and if so how? Thanks!?

    Add DrSmith's answer to KB's answer and you get the full story.





    Here is Mobil 1's answer to your question:





    ';Motorcycle oils and passenger car oils are very similar, with the exception of a couple of areas that are key to motorcycle operation. The first area concerns common sumps, or the use of motor oil, to lubricate and cool the transmission. As you know, in a passenger car the transmission is lubricated by an ATF fluid, which has frictional properties required for transmission operation. In a motorcycle, where the transmission may be lubricated by the engine oil, an engine oil that does not have the same level of friction modification (for fuel economy) of a typical passenger car engine oil will provide better transmission performance in terms of transmission lock-up and slippage. So motorcycle engine oil does not contain the friction modifiers of a passenger car engine oil. The second area of concern for motorcycle engine oils is that they tend to shear (breakdown viscosity) more quickly than a typical passenger car. Mobil 1 motorcycle oils are designed to provide exceptional protection against viscosity loss.';Is motorcycle oil different than regular motor oil, and if so how? Thanks!?
    In general, no, the oil is no different, but it is completely dependent on what type of engine you have and what the oil is being used for. If it's engine oil only, then no difference, but if it has other functions/uses then it would be very different. Check an owner's manual for the correct information or call a motorcycle shop/store and tell them the make and model of your motorcycle and they can tell you more specifically what oil you need to be using.Is motorcycle oil different than regular motor oil, and if so how? Thanks!?
    Basically, no.


    If you want the best lubricity, better than synthetics, Shell Rotella-T
    Meny motorcycle engines share oil supply with the transmission The load pressure from the gears can cause oil to break down( lose viscosity) fast like within 1000 miles
    Yes regular oil has friction modifiers in it that can cause oil bath clutches (like most motorcycles have) to slip. Motorcycle oil does not have this.
    Yes most regular oil has friction modifiers in it that can cause clutch damage. you can check on the back of the oil bottle in the service star. it will say energy conserving if it has friction modifiers in it. if it doesn't it is ok to use. most light car oil like 5w-30 10w-30 etc is energy conserving. most heavier wight oils aren't energy conserving 10w-40, 15w-40 etc.
    I never put motorcycle oil in my bikes. Any good brand name automobileoil without moly is as good, if not better, than motorcycle oil. Moly causes wet cluthes to sometimes slip, so skip it.
    The difference in regular motor oil and motorcycle oil is motorcycle oil is a heavier weight oil. Also, certain motorcycles require a different type of oil for different parts of the engine and drive chain. A harley for example can have upto 3 different types of oil used. If done regularly, putting conventional motor oil in a motorcycle engine could cause damage.
    Motorcycle oil is formulated to withstand the higher revs that a motorcycle is subjected to and to also deal with the wet clutches. Bikes have twice the redline that most cars have, creating a much more stressed environment for the oil. It will maintain viscosity longer and will not break down under the shear forces in a motorcycle engine.
    Well except for special applications like in your first answer, I'd say not so much. Barring you're running your bike in the Daytona 500 in over 100 degree heat. There are only so many refineries and a lot of different brands come from each refinery. But everybody has their own opinion on what oil to use. Straight or multi-viscosity, synthetic the one thing I think all will agree on is regular oil changes. I usually use Castro 20-50 in my motor with Lucas oil making up a percentage for what I figure is a little extra protection. If you change your oil often even the cheaper oils won't have time to break down. On the bike I change my oil and before I button things up I pull the plug and let her run while I pour an extra quart or two into the oil bag just to try and flush out as much of the old oil as I can. Want a above average oil try Torco. Expensive and hard to find but Torco, Castro or any other change it often, I don't like to let it go to 2500 miles, and it won't be oil breakdown you lose your motor over. Just my opinion. And here I'm assuming your talking mainly motor application. Like the first answer said different applications different weights and additives. Again main thing for any of it is the prescribed intervals of oil change if not more often.
    KB is right on.

    Can you put Lucas oil treatment into a motorcycle?

    Call lucas... I don't know on the honda... on Harleys we run Lucas oil and treatment in evo's and lucas syn w/ their new full synthetic additive in twin cams (after 1000 miles with non syn.) we are hi performance guys dyno-ing and pulling motors appart constantly... Lucas gives us more hp less wear and up to 20 degrees cooler (syn).Can you put Lucas oil treatment into a motorcycle?
    Yeah, but why would you want to?l





    I'm not familiar with Lucal oil treatment in particular, but there are two kinds of oil treatment: 1. ';Motor honey'; that thickens the oil, and 2. Detergent and viscosity improvers.





    You don't want motor honey. Pistons and cylinders are fed by oil being slung off the con rods as they flop around in your engine. Thick oil doesn't sling as well as oil right out of the can. Besides, your engine's tolerances were designed to run using a particular grade oil. Thicker oil will starve close tolerance parts for lubrication and your engine's performance and longevity will be shortened.





    Detergent and viscosity indexers aren't necessary if you started with a good quality oil. If you started with a crappy oil, these won't make it lubricate better, they just improve it's temperature range and stabilize it a bit.





    My engine has over a quarter million miles on it right now and only started burning a little oil at startup. The oil level doesn't change much in its 2,000 mile service interval.Can you put Lucas oil treatment into a motorcycle?
    Sure can. And you'll notice the diff. almost immediately !
    You can it dont know what kind of engine its going in but thats whats it is made for


    After break in';because it never will'; I rather use a teflon additive adds 60% to engine life

    What kind of oil and where can i find an oil filter for my 1980 suzuki gs750l motorcycle? thanks.?

    just bought it and need to do this work asap, but not very knowledgable with bikes.What kind of oil and where can i find an oil filter for my 1980 suzuki gs750l motorcycle? thanks.?
    many bikes dont have a filter....you can never go wrong with 10 w 30 in cool weather and 20 w 40....20 w 50 in hot weather....call suzuki dealer and ask for filter...they will knowWhat kind of oil and where can i find an oil filter for my 1980 suzuki gs750l motorcycle? thanks.?
    Check the owners manual if you have it or some bikes have the specific weight stamped on the dipstick. Or go to the Suzuki dealer and ask buy you filter there

    Changing oil in a Honda VTX 1300 Motorcycle?

    I have an 05 Honda VTX 1300 motorcycle. What is the weight of the HONDA oil that is used by dealers for this application? How much oil does my motorcycle hold?Changing oil in a Honda VTX 1300 Motorcycle?
    The 2005 Honda VTX1300 uses a Pro Honda GN4 or a Pro Honda HP4 (without molybdenum additives) 4 stroke motorcycle oil, or it's equivalent. The GN4 being a conventional Motor Oil and the HP4 is a Semi-Synthetic blend.





    Recommended Viscosity is SAE 10W-30, but 10W-40 is fine. The difference between the two would be the ambient temperature that they can be used in. For colder climates, use the 10W-30. For warmer climates, use the 10W-40.





    The unit takes about 3.9 U.S. Quarts.





    Useless Oil Information:


    API Classification: SG or higher except oils labeled as energy conserving on the circular API service label.





    JASO T 903 standard: MA





    Do not use oil additives. Do not use oils with graphite or molydbenum additives.Changing oil in a Honda VTX 1300 Motorcycle?
    You may ask a friend of mine Michael. He is a expert on motorcycle. You can contact him on LoveBiker.com directly by search his username.
    I have a 2004 VTX 1300 and on the repair order invoice from Maxim Motorsport the oil is noted as 10W40DRUM OIL. The invoice indicated that it took 4 quarts. I bought an extra quart that I carry in my saddle bags whenever I go on road trips.

    How much oil does a 1994 Virago motorcycle take?

    With oil filter change 3.3 qts Without oil filter change 3.2 qts

    Motorcycle oil change?

    I have a brand new Kawasaki Ninja 250 08'. It's time for an oil change, but I was just wondering what the price would be if I were to go to a shop and the price of doing it myself (like what the price of the oil will be). Can someone help?Motorcycle oil change?
    would probably cost you 60 dollars or more to have someone do it for you.... to do it yourself would be 20, if that.....





    and it's 1.9 liters (2 quarts) of 10w30





    why even pay anyone to do it for you, especially on a bike?





    all you do is drop the skid plate (if you have one) remove the drain bolt, replace the filter (or if you have a screen type filter, clean it out) put the drain bolt back in and then put in a funnel and fill... you really wanna pay someone ANYTHING (much less 40-100 bucks) just to do that?





    mechanics make good money becuase people often let themselves be over intimidated by cars.Motorcycle oil change?
    I don't know if shops will even do oil changes on bikes. If so, they would charge you $10 or so just to do it, plus the cost of the oil.





    Your Ninja probably takes 2 quarts of oil and a filter. Look in the manual and it will tell you. You can buy special motorcycle oil for like $4-$5 per quart, or you can use car oil which costs about half that. Some people swear you need special motorcycle oil, but I use car oil and I just went past 70,000 mi. on my Honda and it works just fine. The filter might be anywhere from $5 to $10, and you need to get that at the dealer, or mail order.





    Changing the oil is not hard at all, but it's a little messy. You have to warm the bike up so the oil is 'loose', then drain out the oil, pull out the filter, replace the filter and the oil drain plug, then fill with the correct amount of new oil. Its about a 15 minute job. We have curbside recycling and they take old oil. Or you can take it to any gas station or place where they change oil and they will recycle it for you.
    I am not sure on exact prices, but i could see the dealer having a somewhat high price for an oil change. if you think about it, they are still going to put in the same oil you would, so you need to pay to cover that cost, plus the cost of labor for someone to do the job. i know the new '08s have a completely different design than the previous ones, so im not sure exactly how to change the oil on one, but it (hopefully) shouldnt be too hard. i would say if you have the time, you should buy the oil and do it yourself. you will probably save some money, plus be you will learn about your bike and know how to do it in the future. but sometimes, if you are busy, its hard to find some extra time for something like that. you should have the owners manual for your bike, it will tell you what type of oil exactly to put in the bike. good luck
    I have a Goldwing...I just started using AMSOIL...Great stuff. It will give you 5000 miles between oil changes and has added mileage to my tank!! BONUS!





    Most places will charge you 50-60 bucks for the labor PLUS cost of oil and filter. I would think you should let your dealership do your first...also have them ';check things out...'; ya know? After the initial change you could do it your self and save the money.





    Welcome to the bike club....it is the best thing going!! Good luck and ride SAFE!!
    Buy the mfg. service/shop manual. This alone will put you on the right road that avoids the trouble you get when blindly trusting your bike to others. Most people with bikes do the work themselves or allow it to be done by those who have worked to earn trust. BTW, it's therapeutic.
    It cost me about $18 for a gallon of Rotella synthetic and bout $7 for a Pure One filter. So, about $30 with tax.


    (Oil will run anywhere from five to twelve bucks a quart.)





    You should be doing this yourself, anyhow.
    The first service should be done by dealer, so they will check everything on the bike, for second and so on, just do by your self, very easy, manual should have instruction. Good luck. Ride safe.
    Last oil change I did my self cost me $11 and 30 minutes of time.





    4 quarts and filter - $11, quality time wrenching on your bike - priceless!
    My dealer (Kawasaki) charges $29.95 for an oil change.
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  • Is it true that before changing the oil on a motorcycle you need to let it warm up for a few minutes?

    if so why? and why is it that on a car you don't have to do that?Is it true that before changing the oil on a motorcycle you need to let it warm up for a few minutes?
    The first answer is correct: all engines should be warmed up before changing the oil. This is because oil gets dirty from use and the accumulation of dirt %26amp; metal particles. After the engine cools, these particles settle to the bottom of the oil pan making a sludge.





    If the oil is cold, that sludge stays in your engine during an oil change and is recirculated in the new oil, defeating the purpose of changing the oil in the first place. Warming the engine resuspends those particles into the oil, and you drain them out before adding new oil.Is it true that before changing the oil on a motorcycle you need to let it warm up for a few minutes?
    c'mon son, just warm it up, its better for the engine cause youl get most of the old oil out and better for your engine spirit. thanks for asking!!! also, for a car they normally do the same, it gets the sludge out better when the oil is hot. nuff said, party on!!!!!
    You don't ';have'; to, but it's a good idea.


    Warm oil flows faster/easier/quicker than cold, thick oil.


    Plus, the grit/sludge/gunk/debris will be mixed better with the oil, allowing more of it to flow out with the draining oil.
    on any and every engine,car or bike,it always helps to warm the oil up...when its cold its thicker,warm its thinner and drains quicker/better.
    Actually any internal combustion engine should be warmed up before you change oil.......It allows you to drain all the old oil
    I just drain it, fill the oil tank with kerosene, run it for one minute and drain it again and then fill with fresh oil. The kerosene cleans the motor out real well.
    no. Most modern oils are that thin they don't need to be warmed up to drain. This idea goes back to the days when engine oil was thicker than porridge.

    I have a 1973 honda cb350 motorcycle and it is leaking oil where the magneto is located.?

    How involved is it to fix the leak. Is it an oil seal and will the engine need to be taken apart to get to the old seal.


    ThanksI have a 1973 honda cb350 motorcycle and it is leaking oil where the magneto is located.?
    Anytime you have to take an engine apart its a big deal.I have a 1973 honda cb350 motorcycle and it is leaking oil where the magneto is located.?
    are you talking about that it has oil covering the generator,


    because thats normal,


    as for leaking from the casing, thats 3 screws to get the outer casing off, and will only reuire a dab of gasket sealer to sort out,


    if its leaking from further towards the engine,


    then you will have to drain the oil,


    and remove another 6 screws, and replace the gasket paper,





    have a look at the pic
    A magneto cover is usually one of the easiest things to remove and put back on, so good luck finding a new gasket and succes with replacing it. Do take care to remove any and all remains of the old gasket.


    PS I don't know if they still have something called 'liquid gasket', that may work too.
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    Is it normal to have metal shavings in the oil in my new Honda Rebel Motorcycle?

    I purchased a new 2006 Honda Rebel a couple of months ago and decided to change the oil at 250 miles because I was told that a new engine will have metal shavings in the oil. So I changed it and did see the tiny specks of metal.


    So then I spoke to another person about it and was told that this was NOT normal and to take it back to the dealer.


    Now I don't know what to think. Does anyone know for sure??Is it normal to have metal shavings in the oil in my new Honda Rebel Motorcycle?
    Stop and listen- please. Metal shaving during the break-in period are 100% NORMAL. The engine is breaking in- the pistons are conforming to the cylinder walls and some small metal shavings are normal- infact it's supposed to happen. It means your engine is breaking in properly. I have years of experience with this, it is 100% normal.Is it normal to have metal shavings in the oil in my new Honda Rebel Motorcycle?
    no
    Its normal, You can change the oil a couple times and still see metal bits on a new motor, I would have changed the oil sooner but I use the Motoman breakin,


    http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secr鈥?/a>
    Normal for pistons to scrape off fileings and metal from bearings to show up it is the next couple of oil changes every thing should stay clean. If ir runs good no noises just keep watching each of the next changes take the oil drain pan out in to the sun and see sparkles in the sunlight.
    It is normal for a new engine to have metal shavings in the oil. Clean the screen, put new oil in and ride it. Change the oil every 500 to 1000 miles and clean the screen every other oil change. You may still see some metal flakes in the first 3000 miles, but they will diminish.





    If you store the bike during winter, change the oil and ride around the block (to warm it up) before storing it. In the spring, change the oil before you ride it again.
    A motorcycle with an oil filter will strain any metal shavings in the oil. Since your bike only has a screen, some metal will be evident. To give yourself piece of mind, ride it for another 100mi and drain a few ounces out. If you see any metal, top up the oil level. Take it to your dealer for an oil change. Tell them about the metal and make sure that is mentioned on the re[air order. This way you will have a record of your concerns. Keep a friendly relationship with the service manager during the life time of your bike. If you have problems after the warranty runs out, your good friend, the service manager, will ask Honda to repair your bike under their ';good will'; policy.
    No, don't take it back to the dealer. The shavings are perfectly normal. As most of the other guys here have said, it is normal break in wear and tear. The pistons and rings are beginning to seat into the cylinder heads. The cylinder heads are designed to be a little tight to allow the pistons to wear them into a snug fit. The shavings are a result of this fitting process. It is like breaking in a pair of shoes. Instead of shavings, the leather stretches a little to fit your foot.





    You could have waited until 800 miles to change your oil. When you get there, change your filter also.
    Well, since you did it %26amp; found them yes, they do happen...friction happens %26amp; oil isn't in all places when it needs to be...





    If by some chance someone else had found them %26amp; made you panic, then tried to sell you a load of goods, I would still say it is normal, %26amp; to look for the shaker of shavings they have to put into your motor. They should become less noticable as time goes on, but wear %26amp; tear is just that! Use a *good* oil %26amp; change it at proper intervals, unfailingly.


    Why do you think rings leak after a while? Where would the by product from that wear go? Into your oil pan...


    Relax, change your oil religiously %26amp; do regular upkeep on your cycle, %26amp; all will be fine.
    Yes, it's normal. No matter how well the engine and the parts are machined, you're bound to get some metal flecks in the oil while you're breaking it in. Change your oil again at 1,000 miles and again at 3,000 miles. If you still see metal flecks in the oil at 3,000 miles, talk to a mechanic at a Honda dealership.
    Keep the bike or pass it on to someone you know the only time you the shaving is 000001 to 6000 for a small bike the oil will not be clear for smaller parts but by now it should had gonna a way. But keep a record and show it to your dealer (but two time only and do it this week end)
    Metal shavings means a blown piston normally, I don't know about your bike, but it sounds kind of strange. I'd contact an authorized honda mechanic,Quickly. And limit riding time until you do.
    I agree that metal shaving are not supposed to be in your oil. Kind of defeats the purpose of using a lubricant.

    I hav a Harley Softail Delux, can I use automobile motor oil or only motorcycle oil?

    The manual says to use harley davidson oil, however tests between auto oil and motorcycle oil showed that the motorcycle oil broke down before the car oil. I know 20 years ago there was no such thing as motorcycle oil and they charge about 300 percent more for motorcycle oil. I used to hav a Suzuki motorcycle and the manual said you could use automobile oil.I hav a Harley Softail Delux, can I use automobile motor oil or only motorcycle oil?
    Simply, no. Automotive oil uses additives designed to reduce friction in the engine. On your bike, this oil would eventually ruin the clutch. Yes, it costs more to buy the proper oil, but in the long run it will save you money on repairs to your clutch. If you want to save some money, the Shell Rotella blended synthetic is a bargain. Just make sure to look at the oil specifications in your manual and make sure the oil you buy meets those.I hav a Harley Softail Delux, can I use automobile motor oil or only motorcycle oil?
    i don.t know harley has had very different weight oils in theirs over the years than the norm if you have the manual or a quart of oil i would look at the weight and the service rating if you could get an automobile oil with the same i would say it would be ok








    i didn,t think harley clutches ran in the engine oil





    of course synthetic
    unless u want to pay for a new engine, u best use only 20w50 oil. standard car oil's are too thin. this engine is partially oil cooled. u can listen to another hd owner, or learn the hard way why hd uses 20w50. either mobil1, amsol, or hd's. never quaker state.
    You can use automobile oil in a motorcycle as long as it's not ';energy conserving'; oil. The energy conserving oils have additives that are not good for the motorcycle clutch. Most of the 10w30's are energy conserving. Check the back of the oil container to see if it's energy conserving or not. I use Shell Rotella T 15w40 in my Vulcan and have not had any problems.
    No you can not if you use other oil than for a motorcycle which is not recommended use an oil for diesel engines a 20w 50. Otherwise you will be purchasing a new engine sooner or later. that is an expense you do not want. There are plenty of good motorcycle oils out there for you to choose from Do your research and you will find the right one for you. Oil is the single most important thing you can use in your engine. so choosing the right one is very important also on a Harley you need to change your oil every 2,500 miles too.
    Auto oil should work OK, but, a while back, Harley was recommending the use of diesel crankcase oil (Rotella, for instance) in the event that HD brand oil was not available. I believe the reasoning was that diesel spec motor oil has more additives designed to carry off heat than most motor oil, something to consider with an air cooled engine.





    I use Rotella 5 W 40, full synthetic in a Honda Magna and VLX Shadow, by the way. Both are liquid cooled V engines.
    the biggest difference is that a motorcycle bathes the gears in the oils as well. We don't have separate heavier weight tranny fluid like a car. That being the case stay with whatever is recommended for your bike.
    If your gonna ';stray'; from HD oil....





    The Shop manual sez , use an oil that you would use in





    a Diesel engine....





    Gotta Fly...


    Mike %26amp; Jaz in MN
    Though u can find automobile oil viscosity similar to your HD, characteristic of the oil differs in properties required for your bike. However, it will take awhile before the problem emerge!





    Safe riding...


    Blue Sky, Endless Road...
    No, Just as the oil have change for the cars it has also changed for the motorcycle.





    Be Safe
    unless u want to shell out about 6,000 for a new engine not including labor to install, u best run only 20w50 mc oil. harley's are not like the metric bikes that can get away with it. hd's are air cooled, and some of this cooling also comes from the oil. car oil is just too thin to withstand the heat hd's engines will put it thru, and they will break down very quickly. air cooled engines will run alot hotter in the oil zone than water cooled engines.


    u can run 20w50 synthetic (amsoil), or mobil1, but it is strongly advised u only run 20w50 absolute minumum in the deluxe. dont come back bitc-hin about 'hd's are leaky junkers' when we expressly warned u NOT to run weak car oil in the engine.





    and btw: clutches and engines in hd's use different oil's; sportsters being 1 of them. better thoroughly read that manual and adhere to it to the letter....or u will pay severely in engine damage that wont be covered by warrenty
    in the older Harley just any good 50 wt. with Harley oil you are just paying 2 times as much for a name.and if it says motorcycle oil it might be 2 cycle oil. back years ago most motorcycles were 2 cycles. Harley's %26amp; most other motercycles use 4 cycle oil now. my bike as been down for a few yr's.but i ,ve switched over to royle purple senthyitic in all my cages, and i love it. if my bike was up that's what i would use, if they make it in a 50 wt.

    Which oil to use in 2-stroke motorcycle with wet clutch?

    I have a 2 stroke 1981Yamaha dt100. It is oil injection so i was thinking of using any synthetic 2-stroke oil for the injection system. Is there any specific kind you would recommend? I was also wondering what to put in for the gearbox/ wet clutch. I was thinking of just putting in standard automobile oil but i don't know what kind is the best, or if it is bad for the wet clutch system and make it slip. Please let me know what i should do.Which oil to use in 2-stroke motorcycle with wet clutch?
    All 2 stroke engines use motor oil in the crankcase.


    Use quality, brand name, 4 stroke motor oil (10W-40 for your bike).Which oil to use in 2-stroke motorcycle with wet clutch?
    your best bet is to use motorcycle specific 2 stroke engine oil i have seen this at auto zone, advanced auto parts and also pep boys but you can check any of your local auto parts stores for this many automotive oils contain chemicals to reduce wear on the engine if used in motorcycles this can cause your clutch to slip in a wet clutch system





    Valvoline offers a great 2 stroke engine oil specifically for motorcycles


    http://www.valvoline.com/pages/products/product_detail.asp?product=75
    injection system for fuel use any mixing oil and for gear box any 30 w

    How do you change your motorcycle oil?

    I go for a ride and get it all warm.


    I put a pan underneath and pull the plugs from the trans and oil tank.


    When they're done dripping, I put the plugs back.


    Then I pull the plug from the primary, and remove the derby cover.


    When that's done dripping, the plug goes back in.


    I remove the old oil filter and replace it with a new one.


    I put a quart in the primary and replace the derby cover.


    I drop a quart in the tranny.


    3 quarts in the oil tank.


    Dump the used oil in the storage container.


    I then call it good and go for another spin.





    Who needs ';people';?


    I get TWO excuses to go far a ride.


    As if I needed any.How do you change your motorcycle oil?
    I usually do it just after I've ridden it so the oil is hot. I park and wait about 15 minutes then remove the drain bolt and drain the oil into the pan being careful not to burn my hand. When it quits draining I replace the bolt.


    I remove the filter over a drip pan and replace it.





    Then I open the crankcase vent tube, or ';drool tube'; and drain that into the pan..How do you change your motorcycle oil?
    Run it for 3-5 minutes in order to let the oil drain faster.





    -Take of the oil drain plug on the bottom of the oil tank.


    -Take off the oil filter.


    -Put on a new oil filter.


    -Put the oil plug back in.


    -Add oil.








    Your User's Manual should have step by step instructions (with pictures) on how to do this yourself.
    I don't change it myself.





    I got people.





    Those people are mechanics at a Kawasaki dealer who change my oil for $30.
    Take it to the mechanic!
    I don't. I have people for that.
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  • What oil is used in the bottom of a kawasaki 90 motorcycle?

    This is a 1973 modelWhat oil is used in the bottom of a kawasaki 90 motorcycle?
    Being it is a 2-stroke motor, that is the oil that your gears and clutch run in. You can use car oil like 10-40 or 20-50 or they make a specific gear oil for transmissions in 2-strokes. It holds up better to the stress. Being it's not a race bike I would opt for the cheaper car oil. Drain it at the bottom and fill through the cap. I don't know what model you have but most of the 90's had a dip stick in the cap.What oil is used in the bottom of a kawasaki 90 motorcycle?
    I would use a decent name brand 10W40 oil in it...

    Synthetic oil in an older motorcycle?

    I ride a 1984 honda magna 700 (wet clutch) and am considering switching to synthetic oil, thought I might try shell rotella-T, which is not a motorcycle specific oil. I am mainly considering this because the engine knocks until the oil gets warmed, about the first 5 minutes, and most of my rides aren't much longer than this. Anyone with experience riding with synthetic? Is this a good idea?Synthetic oil in an older motorcycle?
    Rotella is for diesel engines. What grade of oil are you using now? A knock in the engine sounds very bad , like a big end bearing is worn and the slop only goes away when the metal has heated up and expanded. This is quite likely as you ride the bike with the engine cold all the time. How long between oil changes?





    Use a 20W-50 at least. Do not use any oil that has friction modifiers or similar, as this will stuff your clutch.Synthetic oil in an older motorcycle?
    Stick with motorcycle products.


    I use synthetics exclusively, they have great wear protection and slickness. They definitely do not cushion, and/or deaden sounds the way petroleum does, so your engine will seem a little noisier not the other way around.

    Are Triumph motorcycle motor mounts the same between oil in frame and pre oil on 750's.?

    I have a 79' bonneville 750 oil in frame and I want to install it in a British Cycles hardtail frame # 544-700 that uses pre-oil in frame motor mounts. Will this bolt right up?Are Triumph motorcycle motor mounts the same between oil in frame and pre oil on 750's.?
    Yep.

    Is motorcycle oil diffrent from automobile oil or just a scam to charge 5.00 a quart at dealer?

    There MAY be a small difference in anti-foaming ingredients due to the motorcycle engine running at much higher RPMs than normal car/truck engines.





    There may also be a benefit if you have an engine that, as per manufacturer specifications, requires a non-standard oil, or an older bike that may have seals/gaskets that could be adversely affected by the newer blends.








    Other than that, it is dealer profit on a standard oil that may have been re-labeled to make the package appealing to motorcyclists.





    Check the manufacturer specifications for the oil itself (ASE SF/SH etc. and go with that.Is motorcycle oil diffrent from automobile oil or just a scam to charge 5.00 a quart at dealer?
    I have yet to see a test where someone could measure a real difference, or an account of a bike engine killed by automotive oil. There are a couple things to watch for, though, if you're going to put car oil in a bike.





    First, don't get an oil that's too thin, and second, don't get an oil that is marked Energy Conserving. Automotive oils are often like this to improve fuel economy. But these super-thin oils don't work on a motorcycle clutch. Check the oil weight numbers and look for the API mark, and get one with the weight that matches what your motorcycle owner's manual says to run.





    I use a dealership service manual to maintain my bike - and it DOESN'T say to use motorcycle specific oil at all, just gives the grade and thickness.Is motorcycle oil diffrent from automobile oil or just a scam to charge 5.00 a quart at dealer?
    I buy Castrol motorcycle oil for my bike at a local auto parts store. ~$3 a quart.
    I thought I'd weigh in being it's a question about lubricants. Everyone knows (except some of you experts) that motorcycle clutches and transmission gears run in the same oil that flows through the motor. Motorcycle oil has different qualities because of that. The bottom line is that if you have a $200 Honda run anything you can find. If you have something worth a crap then spend $5 on the oil. *Don't skimp on the lubricants. *
    Motorcycle oil doesn't have friction modifiers like automotive oil. Thats really the only difference.





    You can use auto oil in a motorcycle and not hurt anything but the friction modifiers can cause clutch slippage in some applications.





    Use whatever you want tho. Debates on which oil is best to use will be going on until we run out of the stuff.
    You can run automotive grade oil in bikes, but I dont recommend it. Usually, oil at the bike dealerships and shops are competitevly priced, unlike car dealerships, which I do agree with the above member saying they rip you off.
    Scam


    Motorcycle manufacturers don't have their own oil refineries.


    Someone else makes the oil and motorcycle manufactures put their name on the bottle.


    http://www.xs11.com/stories/mcnoil94.htm


    Motorcycle Consumer News is the motorcycle equivalent of Consumer Reports.
    It's a scam. Honda, Harley, and Yamaha don't run refineries. they buy it form a company and put it in their own bottles. The only thing you have to watch out for is on the API code ring on the back of the bottle is ';FUEL CONSERVING' . Stay away from this if your clutch is a wet sump, it contains teflon and will make it slip.
    Everything is more at the dealer.





    never buy anything but the vehicle there.
    boy you got some real doosies here


    Motorcycle oil is a different viscosity? WTF?


    ahh 10/40 is 10/40


    weights are different? What does that mean?


    They don't make their own oil? Yes, but maybe they do research on what goes into the base stocks


    What the F is a wet sump clutch?








    motorcycle oils have more anti foaming agents in them. As well as many other specific additives. The oil is getting whipped by the gearbox. Foaming is not a good thing.


    Castrol act evo is 3 dollars a quart spend the money
    Not sure if all bikes are like this, but the ones I've ridden all use the oil for the engine and transmission. Bikes have a clutch that needs special additives that car oil probably doesn't have.
    The wet clutch is a big issue. No car oil stocked at chain stores will be compatible. The diesel oils where compatible until this year, they changed it for the new model emissions. Unless you are willing to do alot of oil research your best off sticking with oil made for motorcycles.
    Motorcycle oil and automobile oil are different weights however you dont have to get the oil at the dealer. You can get the oil at any auto parts store. Just make sure you get the same weight oil....
    Mobile Oil seems to have an intelligent response. (link below)





    Also, SportRider mag had a great writeup on oils (link also below).





    For my bikes (Ducati, %26gt;30k miles combined), I run Mobile 1 Synthetic obtained from any local auto parts store.
    weights are different......oils close to the same.....stick to the right weight...

    How do I change the engine oil in a 2001 BMW R1200C motorcycle?

    refer to your Manuel or go online or to your local BMW dealer.it's not rocket science.How do I change the engine oil in a 2001 BMW R1200C motorcycle?
    I hope these links help.





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    When is it essential to change oil in a motorcycle ? Is it just like a car every 3,000 miles?

    I do mine about every 1000 to 1300 miles.When is it essential to change oil in a motorcycle ? Is it just like a car every 3,000 miles?
    Yes it is like a car other than lots of motorcycles are air cooled so unless you are running synthetic oils then you should change every 3000When is it essential to change oil in a motorcycle ? Is it just like a car every 3,000 miles?
    Stick to the recommended maintenance schedule published in your Owner's Manual. 90% of them recommend 3000 miles. You could probabley push that to 4000 miles if you use a quality synthetic motor oil like Mobile 1 or AMSOIL. But in any case, don't let it go longer then a year between Lube, oil, and filter changes regardless of your mileage. (Don't forget the LUBE)
    It is MORE important to have clean oil in a motorcycle! Your car has a transmission full of transmission fluid, and the engine is full of motor oil.





    The oil lubricates, cools, and absorbs the nasty byproducts and acids produced by internal combustion, and your transmission hums along without problem.





    On a motorcycle, however, the oil takes care of lubricating the engine AND transmission, so it must absorb more of the byproducts to keep your transmission from corroding as well as having the proper friction modifiers in it to keep your clutch operating smoothly.





    It's not an easy job for a lubricant to do double duty, so the best insurance is to change your oil regularly. 3,000 miles is decent, but change it at LEAST once per year if your bike is Harley fluff that only sees 1,000 miles per year anyway.
    If your bike is air-cooled, I'd recommend every 1000 miles. If it is water cooled, you can go 2500-3000 miles, but do it at least once a year.
    yeppers
    a motorcycle's oil is to be changed every 2,000 miles reguarless of breakdown, wear, or dirt.





    the oil also is part of the transmission, not changing every 2,000 miles will cause the bike's transmission to stick, and you will give your gears a premature wear, and the bike will fail you.





    and unlike a car. you should change your brake fluid at the end or beginning of the season, as long as you do it once a year.





    there is a basic maintinace schedule here: http://www.ninja250.com/ just click on the FAQ button and it will be easy to find. even if you don't ride a 250, the principles are the same. just do it.





    hope this helps.
    3000 miles after break-in.





    During the break-in period, change the oil at about 100 miles even though the manual says wait. That first oil change removes the loose metal bits that inevitably happens during break-in.
    what does manual say...I always did it every 1000 miles on a air cooled bike
    it is very very very recommended to change the motorcycle oil frequently (every 3000 or 4000 or even 5000 as recommended by manufacturer). Most bikes go high RPM and are exposed to extreme conditions where oil is likely to degrade more often. If you use synthetic, then you are less likely to see oil breakdown but keep checking the level especially on older bikes
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    How to take Harley motorcycle oil tank?
    What the heck does this mean? How to change the oil? I have a motorcycle, but can't make out your question.
    are we talkin' big twin shovelhead, Sportster, what?
    wait until no one is looking and hide it under your shirt